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Re: "alcohol" stoves ~ availability of fuel:

Postby kabuki_mono » November 14th, 2011, 9:42 am

[quote:3b0ccef9e3="Succat"]

And . . . you've also researched the availability of "alcohol" in all those Muslim countries you'll be travelling through, right?

:?:

Succat[/quote:3b0ccef9e3]

Nope, not right this instant. Having a hard time getting everything together in such a short time span (never was good at packing and being organized at the same time :roll: ) Will look into it though.
I'll post on here what I find for future reference for whomever may need it.
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Postby Succat » November 14th, 2011, 10:09 am

 
 
 I give up . . .

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Postby kabuki_mono » November 15th, 2011, 5:37 am

[quote:759eb8fa74="Succat"] 
 
 I give up . . .

:arrow:

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lol! It's all good. The Middle East is still a long way away. :)
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Postby kabuki_mono » November 19th, 2011, 7:21 am

Still working on the availability of cooking alcohol in the Middle East, I was informed though that you cannot cross borders with tanks of fluids any more. I assume this would be directed more at the compressed cans for stoves but just passing on what I've been informed.
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Postby kabuki_mono » November 19th, 2011, 7:52 am

Ethanol Alcohol is widely available in the Middle East, there is no restriction to it as there is with drinking alcohol. Pharmacies and such sell it.
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Product review:

Postby Succat » November 19th, 2011, 9:39 pm

[quote:8117342e80="kabuki_mono"]
I have ([i:8117342e80]an alcohol cooker[/i:8117342e80]) on the way to me - sooooo ... I'll use it and report back :D

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Kewl . . . please be sure to write up a product review after travelling with this cooker for a while and using it under a variety of conditions.

Cheers!

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Re: alcohol burners

Postby kabuki_mono » April 16th, 2012, 7:00 am

Succat wrote:Cheap, yes  — but inefficient (to the point of being useless) in temperatures below freezing point or at altitudes above 4,00 feet.
 


I have tested my Trangia and thought I'd give out my thought of it. After having cooked with alcohol at 1.600m and higher, in dreadful rain, wind and close to freezing temperatures. I found that the higher up, the less efficient it becomes (obviously) even though it still cooked my food perfectly, just took much longer and used up much more alcohol. In very cold temperatures, it also worked yet it took an extremely long time to kick in, still, once it did - again it cooked my food perfectly.
I guess it depends on opinions and personal preference the use of alcohol - but as from some while back, it is an indispensable piece of equipment in my kit.

Just thought I'd leave my two cents.

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Re: Camping gas Question

Postby RangerChris » April 17th, 2012, 1:27 am

I have for along time used alcohol stoves, first a Trangia then a Svea. They do perform poorly in the aforementioned conditions and little can be done to help. I loved it for its simplicity, quietness and economy fuel wise, 4liters of laquer thinnet cost me 15$. Methyl hydrate or laquer thinner are what I used to burn, way cheaper than fondue fuel. Canister stoves are convenient but wasteful and perform poorly in cold after -15c unless they are inverted(liquid feed) which only works on a remote canister stove or keep the can warm. The XGK stove is a serious expedition stove its down side is a plastic fuel pump( cheap to replace) which all MSR stoves get stuck with and it doesnt like to simmer unless the bottles pressure is let run down. Itl burn White gas, gasoline, diesel,jet fuel, kerosene/ liquid paraffin just change the jet nipple. The whisperlite international which CEO mentioned will burn white gas, gasoline and kerosene, its a good cheap way to get started on liquid fuel but is hard to simmer theres is a new version which does canisters too and the pot stands got a make over.. The Primus Omnifuel is in the same class/ price range as the XGK and burns all the listed fuel plus cannisters and has a metal pump it even uses a leather gasket, plus it does simmer. Ive experimented with cooking on diesel, recommend keeping a small bottle of white gas or gasoline to pre heat with to avoid sooting a splash on the pad is all u need. One note on the Primus, the foil windshield will break faster than an msr one so replace with that;)
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Re: Camping gas Question

Postby RangerChris » April 17th, 2012, 8:58 am

When I get time ill type up a proper review of the Primus Omnifuel, think you could do one on the MSR XGK Succat?
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Re: Camping gas Question

Postby RangerChris » April 19th, 2012, 11:08 pm

Speaking of stoves, does anyone else use a firesteel to light them? Beats a piezo or lighter any day when its sh*ty out but everyone Ive told seems think a 3000° spark wont light highly flammable fuel... Even in high winds with practice the sparks hit their mark and if the steel is soaked wipe it off give a couple scrapes and it will spark.
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